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    ive seen my legenedary sniper runi earth spirits and phoenixes alike cause of headshot proc oh the pain is rich!

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    heroes like lina, ursa, clinkz, troll, lc, and huskar that have built in attack speed own him throughout the game. you can outplay ursa/clinkz in a lot of situations but in general if they choose to shut you down they will. huskar is pretty much autolose.

    supports with silences disrupt his teamfighting and fuck up dive during lane phase (the swoop in a circle feed). return sux too.

    ph requires mana to defend himself in lane so nyx lion or am can easily starve him out during lane phase. in fact the hero's so mana dependent that if a silencer kills you twice in lane your mana pool wont be high enough to use spirits and ult.

    rhasta and lions instant cast hex can be used to fuck over dive initiation

    supports with good autoattack animations can zone him purely from right clicks. having good animations means dodging spirits between autoattacks is much easier. ph cant trade autoattacks vs anyone without spirits hitting cause hes got no armor and no hp. wr and dazzle are particular ones that come to mind. the same applies to the farmer against ph. in particular ive lost to a lot of snipers that rush phase boots.


    A lot of what I talk about has to do with lane phase cause I think the counter lies in it. realize that the hero is a complete glass cannon and that in the lane spirits have to land in order to do damage. Pub offlaning isnt like real offlaning. You tend to get way more than you should be getting if everyone were doing theri job right. So having supports that can fullproof zone out and make the ph play from behind in levels is gonna keep him from bullying everyone with his ult and keep the snowballing from occuring. he can technically recover from a shut down lane with stacked jungle camps, but no one does that for an offlaner in pubs so you're probably good to go from here

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    sidenote everyone that plays this hero has such awful aim and decision making that you rarely see the gayness at its full potential. id hate to play myself on that hero lols

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    i don't play enough phx to give a proper stradegy advice, how ever i have spammed him a little on my sub for fun (he is a fun hero)

    So if you're new to the hero like i was, my only advice is always get urn and alway get shiva's guard.
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    i lose to this hero a lot. i think im like 3-15 against pheonix.

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    hero seems super busted. when someone is good with it i just dread the game

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    Does anyone get Veil of Discord on Phoenix?

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    i originally used to do tranq urn shivas but found id get stuck in midgame not getting the gold to finish it

    basically from the perspective of trying to win the game on ur own its better to get a cheaper midgame item so u have more influence earlier.

    In a real game mek is probably the best first item choice.

    in pubs if theres a big mmr gap i go veil. its probably the better item no matter what if ur owning. if u end up hitting level 11 earlier than normal and have a veil you can bully the other team nearly solo eg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGg2ia5qdx4
    Last edited by 2c; August 31st, 2014 at 03:55 PM.

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    that video
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    I bet if you put this hero solo safelane and ran aggro trilanes that it would be borderline unbeatable

    how many viable offlaners beat this fucker 1v1

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    Lost another two games to a Phoenix yesterday fuck off birds

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    Quote Originally Posted by jajaja View Post
    I bet if you put this hero solo safelane and ran aggro trilanes that it would be borderline unbeatable

    how many viable offlaners beat this fucker 1v1
    clinkz windrunner lc omni and nyx all do good against him

    if you 'predict' such a lane happening you can straight rape him/force lane adjustments with a viper or huskar

    you bring up what i kind of said earlier though. he can lane everywhere and generally it will work out well from him. in particular the most underused position for him in pubs is playing him mid radiant and double stacking the hard/med camps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by epok View Post
    that video
    let it be known that i kill that doom too but it takes a long time so i cut it

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2c View Post
    clinkz windrunner lc omni and nyx all do good against him

    if you 'predict' such a lane happening you can straight rape him/force lane adjustments with a viper or huskar

    you bring up what i kind of said earlier though. he can lane everywhere and generally it will work out well from him. in particular the most underused position for him in pubs is playing him mid radiant and double stacking the hard/med camps.
    Why is Windranger so good against this hero? I'm not sure what I'm missing.

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    Hard to hit with spirits
    Quote Originally Posted by snakebite654 View Post
    he can solo like any hero really fucking easily by buying tranquil boots in safelane

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    Why is Windranger so good against this hero? I'm not sure what I'm missing.
    you press r and the egg dies

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    I finally won a game against a Phoenix. I was storm spirit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disciple View Post
    you press r and the egg dies
    Ahhhh. I was thinking pre level 6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disciple View Post
    you press r and the egg dies
    You can't focus fire the egg.



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    kill em kill em

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