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    battle hunger builds were good for the first 15 min and then fell the fuck off. they were always gimmicky and not that good and depended on u being ahead to be worth anything anyway.

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    4-1-4-3 like max said
    also i still advocate brown boots in 90% of scenarios. arcane if there's like a nyx/qw invoker, etc for team

    NEVER start in the jungle
    jungle level 1 axe = lose game unless your enemies really suck ass

    early oov + 1hunger is pretty sexy too

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    Quote Originally Posted by hsdvo View Post
    4-1-4-3 like max said
    also i still advocate brown boots in 90% of scenarios. arcane if there's like a nyx/qw invoker, etc for team

    NEVER start in the jungle
    jungle level 1 axe = lose game unless your enemies really suck ass

    early oov + 1hunger is pretty sexy too
    this is totally wrong

    axe can jungle from level 1 perfectly fine. there's some luck involved depending on spawns but it's not too hard at all.

    i think it's probably better to start in jungle cause u can usually get a really fast level 2 or 3 and then gank

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    all you've got to do is be comitted to buy some salves, i usually buy 3-4 + tangoand end with 10 min blinks anyways

    :beaten:

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    yeah i dont know why you wouldnt start in jungle, it's really safe you just start tango stout RoP and bring yourself a salve at :25 on courier, if you're dire check both medium camps you wanna do the satyrs/ogres/golems (listed in order of preference) the centaurs are lame level 1. clear the camp, if you get good spins you should be able to run out and let it respawn

    from here it depends on spawns, if your team will let you kill small camp, etc. but GENERALLY:

    if medium camp respawns as centaur go do other camps then stack the centaur camp with battle hunger
    if it spawns as satyrs/ogres then do it and another camp then stack hard camp with battle hunger

    if your supports stack the small camp at :53 for you shit speeds up a lot but this usually only happens when im dire and they can pull w/ the hard camp or something

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    you dont need to buy more than one salve if you guys just bought tranqs and used them correctly you still get 10-11 min blink

    they actually give you +200% armor until like level 6 they are really good. sometimes you dont ever need to go back to fountain depending on spins/spawns/route

    tango stout rop + salve on courier means you just need to farm 800 gold from when creeps spawn to get tranqs, I always hit this timing by 3 min at the latest. from there it's a 7-8 min farm for your blink
    Last edited by Max_; March 5th, 2014 at 07:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KZZ View Post
    battle hunger builds were good for the first 15 min and then fell the fuck off. they were always gimmicky and not that good and depended on u being ahead to be worth anything anyway.
    well i disagree, level 1 call is good enough early when you can just run at stuff when they're taking 600 dot damage constantly. i never really fell off that early, it was more of a problem really late where i died during taunt. i never did farm that much on the hero, i just roamed around killing stuff

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    well because if they send a melee carry safelane you can wreak havoc on his farm starting at level 1
    why have a jungler and then have your offlane "just get exp" when you can have axe simply win the offlane with 1 more person?

    also axe doesn't really 'gank people' early game you'd have to be really dumb to let an axe walk up and call you while you're next to creep to get spins off

    you just lane and zone the shit out of the other heroes and take advantage of them if they ever dare come near you.

    once your helix is stronger you can walk into jungle and if its stacked clear it really fast. honestly jungle level 1 is a waste of axe's laning potential

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    well because if they send a melee carry safelane you can wreak havoc on his farm starting at level 1
    why have a jungler and then have your offlane "just get exp" when you can have axe simply win the offlane with 1 more person?

    also axe doesn't really 'gank people' early game you'd have to be really dumb to let an axe walk up and call you while you're next to creep to get spins off

    you just lane and zone the shit out of the other heroes and take advantage of them if they ever dare come near you.

    once your helix is stronger you can walk into jungle and if its stacked clear it really fast. honestly jungle level 1 is a waste of axe's laning potential

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    Quote Originally Posted by hsdvo View Post
    well because if they send a melee carry safelane you can wreak havoc on his farm starting at level 1
    why have a jungler and then have your offlane "just get exp" when you can have axe simply win the offlane with 1 more person?
    uh i mean it isn't so easy as to say walk bottom and right click their melee carry and hope for spins or something their supports will walk up and kill you

    also axe doesn't really 'gank people' early game you'd have to be really dumb to let an axe walk up and call you while you're next to creep to get spins off
    battle hunger gives 10% ms and he gets tranquils very quickly with which he has a comfortable 380 ms before battle hunger and there are things called teammates and sometimes those teammates are playing heroes with stuns or you pick up a haste or invis rune or who the fuck knows use your imagination

    you just lane and zone the shit out of the other heroes and take advantage of them if they ever dare come near you.
    what if they cast spells on you? i mean im not disputing that offlane axe can be a thing because I've never tried it personally but every time i see axes try this shit or try and cut waves they fucking feed when the supports press their buttons

    once your helix is stronger you can walk into jungle and if its stacked clear it really fast. honestly jungle level 1 is a waste of axe's laning potential
    where's all this magical shit coming from? if your jungle is stacked, if they have a melee carry, if they dont have two supports bottom with spells skilled, your post is atrocious. what fucking laning potential does he have hunger is easily dispellable, he has very weak stat gain and 1.8 base armor like fucking kill me

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    this is a numeta bait in disguise

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    good to know

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max_ View Post
    what if they cast spells on you? i mean im not disputing that offlane axe can be a thing because I've never tried it personally but every time i see axes try this shit or try and cut waves they fucking feed when the supports press their buttons
    it's good in pubs since nobody trilanes anymore and most people jungles worthless shit like lc and furion. if you random this hero in a pub going offlane duallane with any other hero can be absolute nightmare for most easylane duos.

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    is the cooldown reduction really worth rushing to level a skill that gives you only +0.4 disable time per skill point

    i didnt play the hero recently its a legit question

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    Quote Originally Posted by hsdvo View Post
    well because if they send a melee carry safelane you can wreak havoc on his farm starting at level 1
    why have a jungler and then have your offlane "just get exp" when you can have axe simply win the offlane with 1 more person?

    also axe doesn't really 'gank people' early game you'd have to be really dumb to let an axe walk up and call you while you're next to creep to get spins off

    you just lane and zone the shit out of the other heroes and take advantage of them if they ever dare come near you.

    once your helix is stronger you can walk into jungle and if its stacked clear it really fast. honestly jungle level 1 is a waste of axe's laning potential
    combo him with a stun you fucking moron

    he has a 1 point 1.9 disable why wouldnt u gank with him u dumb shit

    i never said u cant lane him, obviously he beats most melee heroes, but holy shit junglling him is perfectly fine.
    Last edited by KZZ; March 6th, 2014 at 08:07 AM.

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    i once had an axe come to my offlane as a clockwork and backlane when the jungle was open
    he fed like 5 deaths then left

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    I want to like this hero but I feel useless in 2/3 games I play him.
    He is fun in lane if my line up/match up ever allows it.
    Tranquil change prob didn't help him as they were pretty useful for jungle sustain.

    Battle hunger is still a pretty strong skill.
    I'd be hard pressed not to be compelled to max it first with at least one in call and helix.
    Obviously as with everything in dota, it depends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleisel View Post
    i once had an axe come to my offlane as a clockwork and backlane when the jungle was open
    he fed like 5 deaths then left
    ya this is what usually happens

    im sure he's fine in lane in certain 1v1 matchups or in certain dual/tri aggressive lanes against certain shit but i haven't put enough thought into shit like that. i do know that battle hunger + last word or battle hunger + curse of the silent is the most annoying shit

    combo him with a stun you fucking moron

    he has a 1 point 1.9 disable why wouldnt u gank with him u dumb shit
    ya like his post was assuming you have no supports on your team or something i dont know

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    dunno about you guys but i actually play axe

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