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    blink mom phase after that whatever, i think sb's fuckign awful. it was acceptable last version but with the cd nerf it's ass

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    fuck all that noise. i've been using this guy as a carry in long and short trilanes lately and I've determined he's definitely OP.

    shrapnel is by far his best skill. point in take aim then headshot then max shrap.

    phase -> mom. allows for last hitting easily then ias to get headshots while they are stuck in shrapnel.

    team this hero up with any front line hero and u win. no need for blink if u just position urself right in the first place.

    actual item build:
    phase mom manta mjollnir. nobody will even be able to cast u hit so many headshot.

    when i see pro teams run him mid i cry. or leveling headshot above lvl 1 before maxing take aim or shrapnel. 40% chance at all levels.

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    sniper is fine mid as long as it isnt something that can jump u easily. i think soul ring is kinda needed for shrapnels. but yea dont lvl headshot past 1 until maxing ur other shit for sure.

    this hero is pretty much drow anyway

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    i've run this hero mid plenty of times and i think as long as u prioritize shrapnel + take aim and u bottle crow, you shouldn't be struggling for last hits or lane presence.

    i've actually beat an ember mid just by right clicking him + shrapnel

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    I think he'd need a Drums in addition to phase so he can get better positioning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snoah-Yopie View Post
    I think he'd need a Drums in addition to phase so he can get better positioning.
    if u can't manage a blink, drums + phase is pretty fantastic.

    i like mom + blink + manta but that's just me

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    Well you move at max speed with mom phase and yasha. I like drums if they have like centaur or some shit that is scary.

    Not that he sucks mid but his trilane presence is SO underestimated.

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    i don't know if i would play this hero in a trilane

    how do u secure kills with a level 1 nuke that takes 9 seconds to deal its full 120 damage

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    Quote Originally Posted by American Shut-In View Post
    i don't know if i would play this hero in a trilane

    how do u secure kills with a level 1 nuke that takes 9 seconds to deal its full 120 damage
    you dont
    you just kill towers and shower it on teamfights

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    It's really fuckin ez. You have two other heroes with nukes and you can sit back and harass anyone without fear of death. Nobody ever believes me no matter how many times I say it but it seriously works.

    Once you hit 3 and 5 the slow plus headshot stuns really add up. Not to mention it's hitting more than one guy

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    i bet first item medallion phaseboots is rewally legit too just click people from long range lol

    ive never got it before but armlet MoM sounds fucking swag

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    U CANT STOP ME FROM TOGGLING IF UR MINISTUNNED

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    is oov good on this hero

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    no its terrible. all u need is pb into midas into maelstrom dagger or w/e
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    he can solo like any hero really fucking easily by buying tranquil boots in safelane

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    oov sounds fine mainly if you're safe lane farming

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    I used to be a shrapnel hater, til one game post-buff it kept getting used on me. That shit owns

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    with the 40% hs rate and shrapnel slow ur almost guaranteed to get at least 4 ticks off of shrapnel damage until you get MoM then it's just broken

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    getting the level 2 in hs might be justified cuz it's a 25 dmg leap, but im not sure that hero can sacrifice the points in take aim or shrapnel

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    MoM is very situational. In most games, people counter pick sniper with shit like Storm or PA, or just mass blinks.

    For those situations, I've found the most legit build is rushing Satanic after phase/aquila. This build is legit, I've seen others execute it well too before I became a believer. Yea. Rushing. Satanic. So far I have a 80% winrate in my 5k pubs where MoM isn't viable and I rush satanic and then go butterfly or MKB/Daedulus/Mjol.

    With a 14-17 minute Satanic, basically no one can kill you 1v1. You have 1500 hp, and about an additional 500 hp from the satanic active (with phase+aquila) even without core dps items. You can essentially make space for yourself, free-farm, and don't have to be scared of Storms or blinking Centaurs. After that it's just a matter of time and you transition into a super hard carry that is unkillable and chipping away at towers. I think it could be a bug, but satanic gives extra life steal from head shot procs during the active.

    The non-MoM build is wraith band -> boots -> phase ->aquila -> HoTD -> Satanic -> Butterfly (or MKB/Daedulus/Mjol situationally) -> BKB.

    You still go the usual skill build with shrapnel, and get early kills with shrapnel + phase + assassinate.
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