Viper

[FRFM]

When you have crit does it account for the bonus damage from nethertoxin? Huge crits? Twilight2008 please advise

[Twilight2008]

When you have crit does it account for the bonus damage from nethertoxin? Huge crits? Twilight2008 please advise

Yes.

[nihil.]

I bet bloodsrones legit. You get health and if they focus u ur team gets healed. Isnt that great

you know what, just do that

[Spam]

in pubs now, every time i see a jungle pick on the other team i just pick viper, ask for a roamer or a support, and shit on the lane. also can survive doom ult and void ult. get like 20-30 denies, a few kills and a aquila/mek into an aghs by 16-22 mins....
11-2 so far. but this is at 4500 range but i feel like when i was higher they still picked stupid junglers and melee safelaners too.

[Scarth]

thoughts on hex
stops tps, gives mana, gives stats

[FRFM]

thoughts on hex
stops tps, gives mana, gives stats

As good as it is on any other hero... Which is really good. It's one of the best items in the game, but on viper you will probably want something else most games s after ags. If you're really getting boned by people tping out MKB will normally be a better choice.

[Spam]

Liking the MKb! thinking of doing aghs into MKB and then bkb or shivas or halberd depending on the game.

[alexxlea]

If you're getting 1-shotted by physical damage after aghs get a ghost scepter. Ult ethe blade ult congrats they're doing 0 physical damage.

[go zai]

vlads viper

[agile_mind]

If you're getting 1-shotted by physical damage after aghs get a ghost scepter. Ult ethe blade ult congrats they're doing 0 physical damage.

lol

[Pepper]

Eh, maybe since Mek's getting super nerfed again

Isn't the ranged lifesteal really crappy though

[will4zoo]

I think mek viper is still the build because it makes him tanky and you want to push towers before he falls off

[magicmagininja]

didnt mek only get a cd nerf, dopesnt matter too much early game does it?

[kanye]

Well 33% increased downtime on mek probably translates to 33% more downtime to push/force fights so it sounds really important at all stages really

[TheBigBadBird]

I just go SnY since he can solo rosh with that item. After I take the t1s I build a midas then go Aghs if it's good into AC/Bfly.

This hero sorta sucks tho, other heroes can do his job just as well and do other stuff.

[FRFM]

I just go SnY since he can solo rosh with that item. After I take the t1s I build a midas

???

[Pepper]

It's true but I think it takes like 2 minutes lol

[TheBigBadBird]

???

It's all explained rather clearly.

[divine]

i wanna try something new on this character

heres what im thinking

atos before aghs, cut out the mek, possibly skip aquila

+ vipers Q is a 40% slow, atos is 60%. full 100% movespeed slow without overdoing it

+ atos has a fucking 10 sec cd with a 4sec active time. aghs viper strike lasts 5 seconds and has a CD of 12. you can keep someone pretty fucking slowed forever, or lock down multiple targets with ease

+ atos gives 390 mana and 350 health. both of which are pretty good. Viper's ult mana cost is 125 at level 6 and 125 after aghs.

+ atos > mek. mek's good for early pushing but you wont scale much with it on viper. it gives 95 health, 5 armor, and 250 health on use BUT COSTS 225 MANA. that's some crazy shit on an agi hero with only 1.8 int gain. atos only costs 50 mana.

+ atos cast range is 1200. aghs cast range is 900. vipers non-aghs range is a super-fucking-pitiful 500, but with atos youll have a long ranged option in your arsenal. with both aghs and atos, youll always be able to stay in a relatively safe zone and be a super-effective flanker

theres way better transitions by getting an atos over mek, since ur so good at slowing everyone around u and pissing everyone off (much like casey). need to rise to the ranks of a DPSer? pick up an MKB and a moon shard/bkb/etc. need to stay utility? go octarine or bloodstone or some shit. Wanna deal with armor issues? Get a solar crest/AC. u think ur an epic memer? get that HH/Silver Edge/Desolator

viper has the potential of dancing with a lot of the current meta heroes. try out this shit and lemme know what u think

[Pepper]

kill yourself my man