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    Ogre Magi

    Discuss all things pertaining to Ogre Magi here.

    http://dota2.gamepedia.com/Ogre_Magi
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    Since they changed Unrefined Fire Blast to cost 60% of your current mana Aghanims is actually worth getting on this hero now. You can always cast it no matter what your mana pool is at and it is only a 6 sec cd.

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    oov is core on this hero, sometimes even worth getting level 1. hero has 5 armor and hits hard

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    safelane farm ogre with an sf or od mid

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    I don’t play ogre often but when I do I just get boots lvl 1 some clarity’s and roam then follow it up with a bottle in to mana boots aghs blink/forcestaff

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    so good with an OD.

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    midas battlefury =D
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    Midas is fine on him imo bc fast lvl 16 rocks balls
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    he can solo like any hero really fucking easily by buying tranquil boots in safelane

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    If you're buying mana boots on ogre now you are definitely doing it wrong.

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    I think this heros secretly OP
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    Magics been way too agreeable without the least bit of negotiation. I know he's smart enough to abuse his sub-ness by taking it in the ass when it matters.
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    ya, workin out for da gurls never works ask magic, the guy trains everyday like a ucking dog and is 10 years away from gettign some poon
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    Quote Originally Posted by magicmagininja View Post
    I think this heros secretly OP
    if not underrated

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    the range and AoE on his flaming thingy really helps control team fights and engagements
    the stun is generally a solid stun
    he is pretty tanky
    and his bloodlust helps carries and synergizes with popular heroes like void and lycan well

    decent hero
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    reduce cast time on his spells and he would be good until then he's mediocre and outclassed by other heroes

    vengeful is better and does the same shit

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    Venge doesnt blow people up like he can
    Quote Originally Posted by divine View Post
    Magics been way too agreeable without the least bit of negotiation. I know he's smart enough to abuse his sub-ness by taking it in the ass when it matters.
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    ya, workin out for da gurls never works ask magic, the guy trains everyday like a ucking dog and is 10 years away from gettign some poon
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    good point ogre top pick because he can do magical damage after a 4200 gold item and a mobility item 12% of the time if the enemies dont have bkb

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    Whats up ur ass d00d
    Quote Originally Posted by divine View Post
    Magics been way too agreeable without the least bit of negotiation. I know he's smart enough to abuse his sub-ness by taking it in the ass when it matters.
    Quote Originally Posted by Timado View Post
    ya, workin out for da gurls never works ask magic, the guy trains everyday like a ucking dog and is 10 years away from gettign some poon
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    thats not a very good strategy post, i was just explaining my views and then ur strawmanning about my colon hamsters

    ogre is really good, he has 5 base armor and decent movespeed and bloodlust is a really strong spell at all phases of the game but his problem is his overly long cast time animations and need for a mobility item + 1 (euls, aghs, sheep, something) to actually dish out shit in the midgame.

    if you compare him to other, currently picked, supports he is lacking

    venge has -armor spell that makes roshan quicker, makes pushes stronger and works well with a lot of the current meta heroes (razor, rhasta wards, etc), has an ultimate that works through BKB, has a damge aura that scales throughout the game and -dmg on death aura
    rhasta has pushing power, a 2.5 second level 1 disable, hex, and an AoE nuke, has an ultimate that damages through BKB
    skywrath has a 2 second 1000 dmg ultimate, a 3.35 second revealing, homing slow that can be cast instantly from an enormous range, a 4 second silence with 1 skill point and a scaling spammable nuke
    etc. etc. etc.

    ogre has some shit going for him but just isnt as strong as any of those heroes. improving his cast times would help slightly but anything more done to him would just make him a more bullshit pub hero i think idk how to balance him he needs gold but cant farm it without ksing shit or getting lucky multicasts and he becomes a walking creep that can cast bloodlust when the enemy team gets BKBs
    Last edited by Max_; August 4th, 2014 at 09:40 AM.

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    with the current meta i feel he doesn't help push (excpet for lusting catas) or help stop push.

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    He can definitely stop pushed with his flame baseballs. Especially when you shoot out 2 and have a good AoE, that shit owns
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    there is literally no problem with ogre, the only reason why he rarely gets pick in CM is because.. where do you lane him.? melee support with single target disable, not a whole lot of options, hes easily made ineffective if he can't look for kills.

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