Queen of Pain

[Ersu]

Looks like you're off the island kzz.

Basi qop is nice if you're not mid.

[Swiftending]

hero sux

why did the dagger mana cost nerf even happen, i havent seen her in 50 games

[kaptenrobert]

forrest thought me the way of phase boots qop

[Max_]

ya i do phase on qop as well because of forrest, i really like it

[FRFM]

Phase is not the answer

[Insomniac]

just win ur lane and get a delayed midas then have like sheep + deso or somethign whe u hit 16 you'll rape everything ...

u just need to farm mroe and be more opportunistic with ur ganks, ideally picked vs melee carries like naix or something where adding some rightclick damage is actually good for ur team

veil as a first item is very very strong and easy to afford even if you had a bad start

the combination of veil-aghs doesnt take much to farm and makes evne a shitty underlevelled underfarmed qop into a rape machine (this is if u dont go midas)

treads/wand is still the best opener

just gank far more with tp scrolls at proper times rather than yolo rotating every runespawn and you 'll be fine

having a support ward between ur enemies t1/t2 tower as nice as ur super good at sniping couriers

the same can be said for puck and storm mids

[JebongoGabno]

i pretend im am when i play qop and get aghs

[Sp12]

There's so many viable items on this hero -- some under appreciated situational ones are Bloodstone, Veil, Urn, Refresher (after 2-3 actives) and Shadow blade. Typical Necro/Orchid/Linkens/BKB/Sheep/Aghas/Skadi/Mjollnir are typical for a reason.

This hero is like a storm/puck hybrid, except she has no stuns/silences like Storm/Puck and worse lategame than Storm anyway.

Like a treads+blink puck will go around repeatedly +1 killing the Weaver/LS/other hero you pick Puck for. The single oblivion staff QoP won't do anything with her 130s CD ult. Once she has orchid she can compete with puck for ganks but at that point Storm is already better than her.

She doesn't even dominatrix mid anymore.

[Legato]

You suggested Bloodstone so I skipped the rest of your post

[Sp12]

You suggested Bloodstone so I skipped the rest of your post

It's not even uncommon; It's the only build you will even see in SEA.

http://dotabuff.com/heroes/queen-of-pain/items

There are more Bloodstones than Mjollnirs or Dagon 5s.

[Insomniac]

midas and veil are both 2k gold range and both do very good things for qop get those if ur underfarmed Dude.

[KZZ]

i feel like she's worse than puck in any real mid-high game unless she's given a 1 role or something

[BloodyNine]

qops so frustrating to play unless you're snowballing with a 13 min orchid

[nihil.]

she is cool unless you end up soloing against a qw invoker in which case prepare for the most boring experience ever

[Max_]

i played two qop games today vs qw invoker and both times i got the first kill and won lane in cs hard but he just ganks my sidelanes and people die to cold snap tornado idk how do i stop him maybe it's my mmr

[13ad7uck.]

get a tp to react to him

tbh im not a qop player so i dont know how effective it is but whenever i mag mid and assraped the mid player they always tried to pull the same shit so if u had a tp to react to his ganks on sidelane w/ rp online i usually double or triple killed

[leeky]

i think i sux as a mid but im 18-4 with qop just go for brown boots + bottle midas rush into orchid and you win i think... you have total rune control and you can dominate your lane whats the issue

[leeky]

also if u finish a game on this hero without a bkb you deserve to be flamed

[Insomniac]

^ saying shit like this makes you look like ur trying to sound like u understand hte game but u really dont "haha i know bkb is a really good/the best item so i'll say if u dont get it u deserve to be flamed that will sound good" holy FUCK ur fucking stupid

[Legato]

I've definitely finished games without bkb sorry dude you're wrong x)