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    Okc Warriors golden state looks shook
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    ?? The US healthcare system is the best in the world.
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    Raw plus minus isn't a particularly good indicator of player productivity because it's too contingent on the other players the player is playing with

    Steph Curry has a much higher +/- than any other player not just because he's really good, but because he shares the court with 4 other great players as part of one of the best teams ever, which skews his +/- in comparison to Chris Paul who plays on a much worse (but still good) team.

    This and other issues is why people built things like APM, SPM, RAPM, and RPM on top of the basic plus minus framework
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    ITT: kanye says every stat is a bad indicator if it does not support his argument

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spit-wad View Post
    ITT: kanye says every stat is a bad indicator if it does not support his argument

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spit-wad View Post
    ITT: kanye says every stat is a bad indicator if it does not support his argument
    No plus minus is just actual garbage and any informed commentator will tell you that

    If you tried to use plus minus for DFS you'd get laughed out of the forum

    Stats that are totally fine to use:
    Per 36 numbers
    Per 100 possession numbers
    TS%
    Win shares
    BPM
    VORP
    SPM
    RPM
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    APM
    Percentage stats like AST% STL% TOV% USG% etc.

    stats that say nothing at all and only people with rudimentary knowledge of stats think they do:
    Pointzzzzz
    Per game numbers
    Raw +/-

    Look, there's actually way more stats that are useful than there are useless ones! Every casual just uses the useless ones.
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    chris paul is a god and spit-wad said damian lillard > cp3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orrin"I make girls wet"Xu View Post
    chris paul is a god and spit-wad said damian lillard > cp3
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    Jokic isn't a top 5 player yet and his eFG% is super good I admit (considering his age it's insane) but I compare him to a mini curry or lebron in a sense that by being on the floor he improves his other 4 teammates tremendously through bbIQ or spacing or so on and so forth but not at the level needed to put him top 5.. top 15 is where I would put him.

    Off the top of my head

    Lebron, Curry, KD, Cp3, Draymond, Klay, WB, Kawhi, Harden, Davis, Wall, Lowry, Kyrie, KAT and maybe Giannis/Jokic. (prob forgetting some) That said out of those players, Davis/KAT/Giannis/Jokic are the future of this league and in 5 years will be top 5 in my opinion with either Porzingis or Embiid joining them.

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    Despite being hardcore Knicks fan I worry about KP because right now he's playing like rich man's Bargnani

    I think a lot of it has to do with Rose and Melo stunting his development but he doesn't rebound well or pass and his main plus is his shooting and his defense from the center position. He needs to get tougher and acquire a go-to post move. He didn't make the leap this year and his game has tagnated in a lot of ways which is disappointing.

    He'll end up being good-verygood but no great I think

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    What about Lilliard bro
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    I parrot you guys so I can fit in during conversations about basketball
    I got pissed off and posted a bunch of emoji and now Iím back in the play penÖ something that has never happened to a single troll

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huber View Post
    I parrot you guys so I can fit in during conversations about basketball
    thats how it starts tbh

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    I parrot you guys so I can fit in during conversations about basketball
    its called being white. (as I parrot r/nba)

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    first you parrot shit, than you start watching some games and trying to talk to black people but get ignored because you're talking out your ass, than you start to watch 10 games a week, than you research how the triangle works (but fail because nobody understands the triangle), than you research defensive schemes and offensive sets and learn what a pick and roll actually is or why hand checkings banned, than you try to talk to black people again and pretend to be one of them and eventually you become a nigga.

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    replace black people with people who follow the nba and it becomes true instead of racist.

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    oh and remember to play pickup and get shit on over the summer.

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    you can skip most of that if you pick up games tbh, especially if your in college

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