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    Quote Originally Posted by yns View Post
    Being able to describe something is different from your initial statement, which reduced thoughts to physical phenomena. I'd check out the article linked in the materialism is dead thread if you're interested in the problem
    i already know the answer to the riddle of the universe

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    Quote Originally Posted by nyte View Post
    Hmmm, I mused.

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    I have a problem with the "I think, therefor I am".

    If you were programmed to think a certain way, are you really yourself?

    Everything about you has been manipulated.

    The reality you have constructed about the universe around you has been about information you've been processing since before you were born.

    You think you think, but how can you think- when you don't exist?
    Last edited by Ajeis; January 4th, 2018 at 05:12 PM.

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    To whom does the face in the mirror belong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajeis View Post
    I have a problem with the "I think, therefor I am".

    If you were programmed to think a certain way, are you really yourself?

    Everything about you has been manipulated.

    The reality you have constructed about the universe around you has been about information you've been processing since before you were born.

    You think you think, but how can you think- when you don't exist?
    You're really fucking dumb

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    Quote Originally Posted by yns View Post
    You're really fucking dumb
    Yea and you shit chocolate grapes

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    Why don't you actually try reading Descartes's Second Meditation instead of being an uninformed moron? He literally answers back everything you fucking posted you ape

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    You don't even have to fucking read it, just look here http://www.iep.utm.edu/descarte/#SH4a

    All sensory beliefs had been found doubtful in the previous meditation, and therefore all such beliefs are now considered false. This includes the belief that I have a body endowed with sense organs. But does the supposed falsehood of this belief mean that I do not exist? No, for if I convinced myself that my beliefs are false, then surely there must be an I that was convinced. Moreover, even if I am being deceived by an evil demon, I must exist in order to be deceived at all. So I must finally conclude that the proposition, I am, I exist, is necessarily true whenever it is put forward by me or conceived in my mind (AT VII 25: CSM II 16-17). This just means that the mere fact that I am thinking, regardless of whether or not what I am thinking is true or false, implies that there must be something engaged in that activity, namely an I. Hence, I exist is an indubitable and, therefore, absolutely certain belief that serves as an axiom from which other, absolutely certain truths can be deduced.

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    I'm sorry to anyone that actually read that shit

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    Therefore "I am" moreover regardless indubitably "I exist" absolutely necessarily

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    U have to read like 10 pages max of Wittgenstein to solve (dissolve) everything in this thread
    I have heard of an emulator of Peregrinos, a post-war writer who, after having finished his first novel, committed suicide to attract attention to his work. Attention was in fact attracted, but the book was judged to be no good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yns View Post
    Why don't you actually try reading Descartes's Second Meditation instead of being an uninformed moron? He literally answers back everything you fucking posted you ape
    I didn't realize you were Descartes.

    Or were you just borrowing his name and ideas?

    Is your reality based on his?

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    I am a leaf on the wind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajeis View Post
    I didn't realize you were Descartes.

    Or were you just borrowing his name and ideas?

    Is your reality based on his?
    Because you said "cogito ergo sum" was dumb for a reason that Descartes explicitly answered when he fucking made the statement. I don't agree with Descartes on the mind, but you're fucking statement about how it's wrong is so asinine and shows how uninformed you are

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    How is ajeis so dumb that he didn't even realize that "cogito ergo sum" was from fucking Descartes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yns View Post
    Because you said "cogito ergo sum" was dumb for a reason that Descartes explicitly answered when he fucking made the statement. I don't agree with Descartes on the mind, but you're fucking statement about how it's wrong is so asinine and shows how uninformed you are
    You seem so sure you're right.

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    My point wasn't about not knowing Descartes.

    I was talking about how people's concept of self is an illusion.

    Here is an example.

    You think you have an idea about your concept of reality, and claim how wrong I am.

    Was it your concept on reality, or was it Descartes that you were trying to prove against me how wrong I was?

    When I was referring to processing information before being born, I was referring more to where do you think your natural instincts come from?

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    Were you breathing before you starting thinking?

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    Were you breathing before you starting thinking?
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