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    Google Lawsuit/Damore Rnd. 2 thread

    https://www.scribd.com/document/3686...Action-Lawsuit

    A lot to read through and talk about here so I figured we should have a thread to examine it
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    Yeah this is pretty great

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    Had some time to read the first 18 pages this morning was some really good shit looking forward to reading the rest

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    Post what you find for the people who don't have time to comb a 200-page document
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    its pretty hilarious, basically two white conservative males (James Damore, the guy who made the google manifesto thing, and David Gudeman, some guy who got fired in 2016 over shit he said on a private google discussion forum) are suing google for discrimination based on California laws for race, political beliefs and gender. thats not why its hilarious though the actual claims being made about google policy and events they had is literally a gold mine of dystopian, ironic social humor.

    note they were actually given right-to-sue letters from the state of California(!!!)

    heres some good ones from the 18 pages I've read already

    Not only was the numerical presence of women celebrated at Google solely due to their gender, but the presence of Caucasians and males was mocked with “boos” during company-wide weekly meetings.
    On March 30, 2017, Damore attended a weekly company-wide meeting called a “TGIF meeting.” These weekly meetings were used as an avenue for employees to connect and discuss certain topics involving Google. 29.

    The TGIF meeting on March 30, 2017 was entitled “Women’s History Month,” and Google brought in two presenters for this get-together: Ruth Porat (“Porat”), the Chief Financial Officer of Google, and Eileen Naughton (“Naughton”), the Human Resources Director of Google. 30.

    During the March 30, 2017 TGIF meeting, either Porat or Naughton pointed out and shamed individual departments at Google in which women comprised less than 50% of the workforce. Alternatively, they applauded and praised departments, such as the sales department, where women comprised more than 50% of the workforce.
    using social pressure, guilt and shame to force hiring managers to meet quotas regarding hiring women. this is where it gets pretty good:

    In or about June 2017, Damore attended a “Diversity and Inclusion Summit” (“Summit”) conducted by Google at the Mountain View campus.
    this just sounds like some weird dystopian 1984 event already

    The Summit covered general topics such as how Google could increase its diversity. Specifically, the Google presenters went through some of their policies that were designed to accomplish this such as treating preferred categories of people (women, certain but not all ethnic minority groups) differently during the hiring process by providing extra interviews, and putting applicants into a more welcoming environment based on their race or gender. The Google presenters also discussed putting “diverse” individuals into high priority queues so that they were more likely to be hired, and hired faster. 36.

    Google defined “diverse” individuals as women or individuals who were not Caucasian or Asian.
    I left out and earlier quote but diversity was also taken into account for promotions into upper management positions and shit like that. basically google is saying if you fit our category of "diverse" you deserve more than asians/whites.

    Damore also asked whether certain diversity programs that were aimed at helping individuals on the basis of their gender or race, such as “Women Who Code,” “BOLD” (an internship program offered only to women and underrepresented minorities), and “Stretch” (a class Google offers only to women) were legal, and asked how using someone’s protected status, such as race and/or gender, in making employment decisions, was legal.
    this was after his memo was posted in private google forums but before it got leaked, he actually tried to talk to HR and correct these people.

    On or about July 2017, after the Diversity and Inclusion Summit, Google held another diversity training class (“Diversity Training”) at its Mountain View headquarters. Damore attended this event based on his similar motivations for attending the Summit—namely, because Google factored “diversity and inclusion” into its employment advancement opportunities.
    this is like literal political brainwashing training at this point, it gets worse though:

    At the in-person training, entitled “Bias Busting,” Google discussed how biases against women exist in the workplace, and how “white male privilege” exists in the workplace. The training was run by the “Unbiasing Group” at Google, and there were approximately 20 Google employees present. Damore disagreed with this one-sided approach. When Damore verbalized his dissent and his concerns with the one-sided presentation, other employees, including managers, laughed at him derisively. They considered his views to be conservative, and thus flawed and worthy of disparagement.
    This is actually hilarious and ironic. Who makes sure the unbiasing group is unbiased? its even better when you realize that this guy sat in a room with 20 die hard liberal google employees and actually tried to argue with them. they obviously found it hilarious too and just laughed at him.

    On or about August 4, 2017, an unknown Google employee leaked the memo to either Vice Motherboard or Gizmodo,
    NOTE: This was literally 1 month after he had posted it to the private google forum.

    On August 4, 2017, Damore attended a meeting with Rao and another representative from Google HR. At the meeting, Rao stated that Google was aware of Damore’s memo, and although Google could not ask him to take it down because it was protected political speech, they still thought it was in his best interest to do so.
    Another good one, "we can't ask you to take this down but seriously take that shit down"

    On August 3, 2017 George Sadlier (“Sadlier”), a Director at Google, sent out a mass email condemning James’ essay as “repulsive and intellectually dishonest” and promising an HR investigation into Damore. Sadlier also promoted posts that advocated for physical violence against Damore. Subsequently, On Friday, August 4, 2017, Damore received a late-night email from Alex Hidalgo, a Site Reliability Engineer at Google in Sadlier’s organization, which stated, “You’re a misogynist and a terrible person. I will keep hounding you until one of us is fired. Fuck you.”
    they have a screenshot of the email here too its actually hilarious you can just send co-workers emails like this and nothing happens. regardless of what someone has done I don't think a professional setting should allow you to send hilarious "fuck you" emails to people. he even dares the guy to send it to HR which they left out of the lawsuit but you can see in the screenshot here: (https://html2-f.scribdassets.com/2yy...282ab2f961.jpg)

    Damore forwarded Hidalgo’s email to Google HR, and was told to work from home for some time until emotions cooled down. Similar threats followed from other coworkers. Google executives and employees condemned Damore, his memo, and his views. Some coworkers demanded Damore’s termination, and the termination of other individuals who shared his views.
    "Stay home while we do the paperwork to fire you"

    Damore was terminated on Monday, August 7, 2017 at approximately 6:00 p.m., via telephone, as he had been working from home that day, pursuant to HR’s instruction following the Alex Hidalgo threat of August 4.
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    Wu told Damore he was being terminated for “perpetuating gender stereotypes.” Rao then stated this was the Google’ final decision. When Damore attempted to explain why his termination was unlawful, Rao stated there would be no discussion. 73.

    During the call when they terminated Damore, Neither Wu nor Rao identified any Google policy or procedure that Damore had violated.
    This is essentially saying that we can fire you for holding differing opinions than us.

    Not only did Google terminate Damore for his political views relating to workplace issues, but they then rewarded individuals who disagreed with and disparaged Damore. 75.

    The Google Recognition Team allowed employees to give fellow employees “Peer Bonuses” for arguing against Damore’s political viewpoints. Peer Bonuses were typically reserved for outstanding work performance or for going above and beyond an employee’s job duties. Defending the liberal agenda, or defending violations of California employment law, is not in any Google employee’s job description
    they literally gave people rewards for sending this guy nasty emails ROFL

    In one example of this, an employee gave a Peer Bonus to another employee, and stated that the bonus was for “speaking up for googley values and promoting [diversity and inclusion] in the wretched hive of scum and villainy that is [Damore’s Memo].” The Google Recognition Team reviewed this justification, considered it appropriate, and allowed the bonus to proceed.
    "googley values" is the worst term I've heard all year.

    thats pretty much all the good parts from the first part of this document, you guys should seriously read this.

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    I literally would be quoting like multiple paragraphs on every page if I continued this. seriously just read page 16 on and see what I'm talking about this is great

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    We give those kinds of peer awards to each other in my office as bribes to get questionable favors from colleagues

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    Please keep us posted ewiz. Enjoying your snippets.

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    who's posting on yns in this thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite_Regen View Post
    Please keep us posted ewiz. Enjoying your snippets.
    that's not me. i'm guessing it's dan

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    David Gudeman was just pressing the issue on these forums and arguing with trannys/muslims even calling one dude out for saying some shit about the FBI targeting him because he was muslim. like I don't think this guy understands just how bad of a position he was in arguing with liberals at gOOGLE

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    no its me yns not dan

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    I have to go get something to eat I will be back later to go through this gold mine

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    felt kinda joneslike to me but dont fucking ban him regardless you goddamn monkeys

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    Yeah, I had actually read a good bit of it and seen all of that already. Was going to take some time to get quotes/screenshots of particularly objectionable stuff so we could all read it here. The doc is huge though.

    I was mostly prodding because I thought it was Ewiz saying he was going to go through it and I thought it would be somebody presenting a different opinion from my own.

    I think, as with the other Damore Document, if you actually read the thing you will come away thinking less of Google, but it will inevitably be turned into a fiery political battle by people who don't read it and just read media buzz/twitter reactions to it.

    Even the techcrunch article I originally got the document from horribly misrepresented Damore and his arguments, suggesting that he intended to make massive and demeaning generalizations about women when in reality he was trying to make an argument about statistics (namely, why even in the most equitable societies the statistics will not show increasing gender parity in some fields; in fact, it's often exactly the opposite. The most equal societies have the largest gender disparities in some of the fields in quesiton.) and many of his "arguments" that people objected to were just discussions of actual studies and data, the conclusions of which were falsely attributed to him as some sort of bigoted screed.

    Anyways, complicated issue, the world reduces its complexity in order to make it political, can't talk about it in public for fear of being labeled an enemy of JUSTICE AND TRUTH, expect to one day be escorted off the premises of some google subsidiary like boston dynamics due to being blacklisted because they connected my alightsoul posts to my chrome history

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