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    [GAME] Contagion in the Palace game thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Mafiawiki
    Contagion in the Palace is Assassin in the Palace modified to use the Contagion mechanic to decide who gets lynched

    There is one King , one Assassin , and the remainder of the players are Guards who are all told the identity of the King.

    The Assassin has no suicide bomb in this. He is instead granted the power to kill another player at the time of his lynch. Their goal is to identify the King so that they can use this kill against him. If the Assassin successfully kills the King, then they win, otherwise the King and Guards win. The Assassin doesn't need to survive to win.

    This setup differs from normal AITP in that the Contagion mechanic is used to decide all lynches after day 1. The Contagion mechanic works as follows. The first lynch is achieved by a majority vote against one player. Once that player is lynched, he is infected with a disease. That player then dies as they give the disease to another player. The next player then dies as they give the disease to another. This process continues until the disease has been given to the assassin. Once the assassin has the disease he has to try to give it to the king. If he succeeds, then he wins. If he does not, then the guards and king win
    check the sign-up thread for rules/role PMs

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    1.lucky artist
    2.nmagane
    3.krazy kat
    4.ironstove
    5.iamafuckingretard
    6.notjones

    sending out role PMs shortly, game starts when i get 6 confirmations (Don't post until game starts)

    PM me if you have any questions, the setup can be confusing

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    -A player's role is revealed as soon as he's poisoned
    Last edited by Slithereen; March 27th, 2018 at 02:02 PM.

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    I am a guard and I have to protect the king, Iamafuckingretard.
    “A man of genius makes no mistakes. His errors are volitional and are the portals of discovery.”

    “Her antiquity in preceding and surviving succeeding tellurian generations: her nocturnal predominance: her satellitic dependence: her luminary reflection: her constancy under all her phases, rising and setting by her appointed times, waxing and waning: the forced invariability of her aspect"

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    GAME BEGINS

    you have 48 hours to decide who shall drink poison first

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    He who has spent his whole life trying to separate himself from the world of particulars shall not be afraid of death, for death is when ones soul can finally separate from the body and rejoin the world of forms.

    I am the king, and I am not afraid.
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    i dont really know me either, does anyone ever truly know themselves?
    #philosophyPHD

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    I can confirm that lucky is king and that this is not wifom.
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    You guys should lynch me first, I'll take the first shot in the dark, cuz I'm like 99.99% sure at this point that nmag is assassin.
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    The goal here is to kill the assassin asap. Every dead guard makes it easier for the to find his target.

    With that said, I think it might be best to vote goy club on first day.
    Into the burning heart of God in the belly of a black-winged bird.

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    Why should we vote goy club on first day? And who is goy club?
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    hard-claiming king

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    Here's some thoughts on how to win the game on day 1 with a commitment scheme.

    Let's assume there's some message M with enough entropy that all guards can all come up with on their own. This doesn't have enough entropy, but for example's sake we'll use the king's name.

    1. We all produce a hash of the King's name. H1 = H(name).
    2. We all then choose some random stuff to append to that hash, store it, and then compute H2 = H(H1 + rng).
    3. We all post H2 into the forum and wait for everyone to post theirs.
    4. We then all reveal the secret we used to compute H2.
    5. Each of us confirms that you can produce the respective H2 with our own computation of H(H1 + revealed_rng).
    6. As the Assassin doesn't know H1, he shouldn't be able to produce the commitment that formed H2. We then know who the assassin is. Furthermore, the Assassin learns nothing about the value of H1, he only knows what secrets we added to H1 to form our H2s.

    And there you have a Day 1 win.

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    I'm really proud of that btw.

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    Tbh I have no idea what any of that means
    Quote Originally Posted by Haxity View Post
    i dont really know me either, does anyone ever truly know themselves?
    #philosophyPHD

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commitment_scheme

    All of us guards can commit to a certain value that we can all agree upon without revealing it. We wait for everyone to post their commitment, then we each reveal what we used to build our commitments; the Assassin (and King, but that doesn't matter) will be unable to reveal anything that we can validate and we'll immediately know who the Assassin is, but they'll only know our revealed, random, and inconsequential values.

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    I'll PM slithereen about some questions on what is allowable for a message or not; the problem is if we all post ideas about things we all think we (guards) should know, it might give some ideas to the Assassin about which one of us are guards/are not.

    If you have any questions about how to do any of this, post in the thread. I'll make a step by step guide or something.

    We should all agree upon a time to announce the message format then post our commitments; gives the assassin less time to react.

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    If you are the KING:

    You make up whatever to use as H1. It doesn't really matter.
    You produce H2 with your random values.
    You then reveal your random values after everyone has committed.

    IT DOES NOT MATTER AT ALL THAT YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT H1 IS; WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE.

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    Also, if you are the KING, DO YOUR BEST TO LOOK LIKE A GUARD.

    ASK QUESTION AS TO HOW EVERYTHING WORKS, AS IF YOU ARE COMPUTING THE GUARD STUFF AND HAVE TO BE CORRECT YOURSELF.

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    That works in theory, except:
    1. Most of the players have no idea how to do this, or they don't have the software.
    2. I want to play mafia, not crypto 101.
    3. This amounts to cheating. It's like giving all town players a private chat room because of a "password" that everyone knows except the assassin.
    Into the burning heart of God in the belly of a black-winged bird.

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    I'm allowing it as long as your crypto remains some simple pen & paper code.

    You can't use an outside source to make/break the code (aka a website with a bunch of different solvers)

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    https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php..._in_the_Palace

    Assassin
    Welcome, [Player Name]. You are the Assassin.
    Abilities:

    It is your goal to give the disease to the king. Guarantee his death and the inevitable fall of the kingdom
    Win condition:

    You win if the king dies, regardless of whether you die.


    Keep this in mind everyone. Even if we find the killer, he still wins if he infects the king.
    Into the burning heart of God in the belly of a black-winged bird.

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