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    Re: Epically Ghetto Tournament results and final standings

    Maybe we can do like every 3rd secs we can do a swizz?

    Example
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    Single
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    Single
    Single
    Swizz
    Ect.
    [6:16:07 PM] Grant: bobby can u cook me up some shit at ti3
    [6:16:10 PM] Grant: if i bring my mike tyson
    [6:16:13 PM] Grant: or whats the portabnle grill called
    [6:16:15 PM] Robert: ROFL

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    Re: Epically Ghetto Tournament results and final standings

    There is definitely some appeal to the swiss format. Teams know that they need to be on during X hours on sunday no matter what - no early elimination. If the points system was as simple as 1 point/win, and teams accumulate points each week, then people would still try to win their last games.

    Also consider that there might be other leagues/tournaments in the future with a more common format.


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    Re: Epically Ghetto Tournament results and final standings

    Quote Originally Posted by mikey
    I mean, if you at look at it in an aspect of why SECS was created (practice for NA teams), Swiss style format would be the greater format. It would give all teams the same number of games with a determined winner. Single elimination format gives teams 1-2 games of practice before eliminated. I think if we wanted to stick to the original purpose of this tournament it should probably be changed to Swiss style.

    Also, ixmike88 is too good for SECS nowadays guys, you heard it here first.... he's changed.
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    Re: Epically Ghetto Tournament results and final standings

    Sunday Evening Cup Series... killing teams if you play in it and killing teams if you don't play in it since 1999
    EGIdrA: am i really playing some guy named amonkey?

    Libo Chang: i'd perform a self castration if i got
    Libo Chang: 15k
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    [11:04:27 PM] Krishtian Navedo: stick ur dick in her
    [11:04:31 PM] Libo Chang: ?????
    [11:04:34 PM] Libo Chang: i dont
    [11:04:35 PM] Libo Chang: want
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    Re: Epically Ghetto Tournament results and final standings

    Quote Originally Posted by RedHarvest
    Sunday Evening Cup Series... killing teams if you play in it and killing teams if you don't play in it since 1999
    Onto, friendless since 1989
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    I think I can play support better than bdiz and universe, but I wouldn't want to regardless.
    Honestly, nadota has been overrun, or grown, or whatever you want to call it so it's no longer a little club, but a big fucking commercial/public site. Go 100% with it. Make money off ads/wongs/a store. Put streams up. Do your own content. Stop trying to hold on to the notion that we can keep the close knit club we have historically been, because it's gone at this point (and I think you know it too spit)
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    Re: Epically Ghetto Tournament results and final standings

    HEY! he's my friend.

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    Re: Epically Ghetto Tournament results and final standings

    Quote Originally Posted by mikey
    HEY! he's my friend.
    You pity him. That's different.
    Quote Originally Posted by HmmMilkshake View Post
    I think I can play support better than bdiz and universe, but I wouldn't want to regardless.
    Honestly, nadota has been overrun, or grown, or whatever you want to call it so it's no longer a little club, but a big fucking commercial/public site. Go 100% with it. Make money off ads/wongs/a store. Put streams up. Do your own content. Stop trying to hold on to the notion that we can keep the close knit club we have historically been, because it's gone at this point (and I think you know it too spit)
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    Re: Epically Ghetto Tournament results and final standings

    wheres my goddamn sig
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    Re: Epically Ghetto Tournament results and final standings

    Quote Originally Posted by Demise
    wheres my goddamn sig
    I'm working on it, I said it would be done by this evening!

    There are certainly problems with the Swiss format. It's harder to run than single elim (because you have to do new pairings based on the results of the previous round rather than having teams just follow a bracket and more-or-less organize themselves), for example. And the timing has to be more strict. Mikey's point, however, is basically the reason I wanted to run a tournament with the Swiss format. Teams get to play 3-4 rounds no matter what (barring an awkward number of drops). This is the reason M:tG FNM's/prereleases/and more casual tournaments are run in this style.

    It's actually possible to run it in a way that you 'cut' to the top 2/4/8/...2^n teams (obviously for larger tournaments) after a certain number of rounds and then have them play out the .../quarter-/semi-/finals as boX series (this is how larger M:tG tournaments, like the SCG Opens and Pro Tours, are run).

    tl;dr running it Swiss style is better for the teams but harder for the administration. You would (might?) have to score the tournament a little bit differently than SECS has scored it in the past, and it would be awkward to run it Swiss some weeks and single elim on others (simply because of the way the scoring would pan out). If an administrator were fine with a little bit of 'awkwardness' in the seasonal scoring, then going single/single/Swiss (or whatever other pattern) is certainly possible, though.
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    Re: Epically Ghetto Tournament results and final standings

    I'm willing to run Swiss if that's what the teams want.
    [6:16:07 PM] Grant: bobby can u cook me up some shit at ti3
    [6:16:10 PM] Grant: if i bring my mike tyson
    [6:16:13 PM] Grant: or whats the portabnle grill called
    [6:16:15 PM] Robert: ROFL

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    Re: Epically Ghetto Tournament results and final standings

    As someone on a team who would likely be one and done every week I liked the Swiss format.



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    Re: Epically Ghetto Tournament results and final standings

    swiss is better for a tourny like this.

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    Re: Epically Ghetto Tournament results and final standings

    SECS are supposed to increase north american dota lvl, not to show whos the best or w.e

    i think Swiss format is way better since it allows every team participate equally in the tourney, not like single elimination, where inexperienced teams (or however you wanna call it) always get eliminated after playing one game.

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    Re: Epically Ghetto Tournament results and final standings

    shitty. they're called shitty.
    EGIdrA: am i really playing some guy named amonkey?

    Libo Chang: i'd perform a self castration if i got
    Libo Chang: 15k
    Libo Chang: viewers

    [11:04:25 PM] Krishtian Navedo: libo
    [11:04:27 PM] Krishtian Navedo: stick ur dick in her
    [11:04:31 PM] Libo Chang: ?????
    [11:04:34 PM] Libo Chang: i dont
    [11:04:35 PM] Libo Chang: want
    [11:04:39 PM] Libo Chang: da scvs

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    Re: Epically Ghetto Tournament results and final standings

    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowFiend
    SECS are supposed to increase north american dota lvl, not to show whos the best or w.e

    i think Swiss format is way better since it allows every team participate equally in the tourney, not like single elimination, where inexperienced teams (or however you wanna call it) always get eliminated after playing one game.
    just play scrims if you wanna improve your level...I flippin lvl up playing mm sometimes...

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    Re: Epically Ghetto Tournament results and final standings

    Quote Originally Posted by BuLba-SaUr
    ixmikes ego is 2 high atm

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    Re: Epically Ghetto Tournament results and final standings

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    ixmikes ego is 2 high atm
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    Re: Epically Ghetto Tournament results and final standings

    Quote Originally Posted by PAINTITGOLD
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeyo
    Quote Originally Posted by BuLba-SaUr
    ixmikes ego is 2 high atm
    [6:16:07 PM] Grant: bobby can u cook me up some shit at ti3
    [6:16:10 PM] Grant: if i bring my mike tyson
    [6:16:13 PM] Grant: or whats the portabnle grill called
    [6:16:15 PM] Robert: ROFL

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    Re: Epically Ghetto Tournament results and final standings

    Quote Originally Posted by TidesofTime View Post
    i completely forgot what legato looked like, my memory = he looked exactly like a buff version of that bad guy from heroes

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    dat shit cray

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