Anybody else feel mechanical changes are kinda whack?

[NInjaC]

Well in dota1 because of the wc3 engine you could use skadi with range heros and another orb effect, but in dota2 they pretty much changed it. Anybody else feel that its a change for the worst?

My prime problem is mainly sk dodging stuns with his burrow strike and clinkz not being able to use skadi with fire arrows.

Whats your most hate mechanical change?

[Papa KFC]

Well in dota1 because of the wc3 engine you could use skadi with range heros and another orb effect, but in dota2 they pretty much changed it. Anybody else feel that its a change for the worst?

My prime problem is mainly sk dodging stuns with his burrow strike and clinkz not being able to use skadi with fire arrows.

Whats your most hate mechanical change?

there's lots but the one on my mind right now is linkens blocking aoe stuns not targeted at the linkens hero (like fissure etc)

[Leoj]

Uh, you can use skaadi + another orb on ranged in dota 2.

[dfekt]

there's lots but the one on my mind right now is linkens blocking aoe stuns not targeted at the linkens hero (like fissure etc)

wasn't that intentional? o.o

[Papa KFC]

wasn't that intentional? o.o

duno, i just remember i dota one you could stun people with linkens that way etc

[KZZ]

In dota 2 lifesteal stacks with skadi for ranged heroes, none of the other orbs do.

The linken's change is intended.

[NInjaC]

Uh, you can use skaadi + another orb on ranged in dota 2.

yes im aware i phrased it wrong i meant more of clinkz and his fire arrows interaction with skadi

[LiChE]

In dota 2 lifesteal stacks with skadi for ranged heroes, none of the other orbs do.

The linken's change is intended.

lifesteal stacks w/ skadi on all heroes

[SunBhie]

The burrowstrike thing does annoy me. The Clinkz + Skadi is reported, and is going to be fixed next patch.

Here are some shit that are inconsistent with burrowstrike from DotA to Dota 2:
Burrowstrike disjoint - http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=9756
On-click burrowstrike missing - http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=21441

[Ganked]

You do realize the WC3 restrictions are a setback? The only reason things like that are in dota 1 is because they have to be...having an engine capable of anything is a lot better for the game, regardless of the inconsistencies that arise from the engine difference.

[NInjaC]

You do realize the WC3 restrictions are a setback? The only reason things like that are in dota 1 is because they have to be...having an engine capable of anything is a lot better for the game, regardless of the inconsistencies that arise from the engine difference.

Its not a setback if some of these engine niches allow for skilled players to use it and create more skill oriented play. Same with alch stun not disjointing when he ultis.

[GranDGranT]

It is a setback

[SunBhie]

If we are talking about not being able to crit while phased, or firefly not functioning with firefly, that's certainly a limitation and a bad thing. So the fix for those are a good thing. However, many things in this game are balanced around the limitations and have become a solid part of the game. Are we to say that these are limitations and change the rules (e.g how orbs function)?

Dota 2 does suck compared to DotA. I can't quite put my finger on it, but I think a lot of it has to do with how trees, fog and pathing functions.

[SunBhie]

For what it's worth, many of you who say these are limitations is untrue. Troll Warlord changes forms and can no longer disjoint projectiles. Do you really think IceFrog can't make that happen for Alchemist, Sven and whomever else that has transform?

[NInjaC]

For what it's worth, many of you who say these are limitations is untrue. Troll Warlord changes forms and can no longer disjoint projectiles. Do you really think IceFrog can't make that happen for Alchemist, Sven and whomever else that has transform?

The thing is that these disjoints and other such stuff raise the skill bar for these heros. Yes every idiot can stun with alch not every idiot knows how to disjoint.
Its the same with the discussion on sk and arrow. Were it use to just nuke sk in ss, but apparently that was a bug since the game came out.

[SunBhie]

Why are you telling me this, do you lack reading comprehension. I'm agreeing with you.

[NInjaC]

For what it's worth, many of you who say these are limitations is untrue. Troll Warlord changes forms and can no longer disjoint projectiles. Do you really think IceFrog can't make that happen for Alchemist, Sven and whomever else that has transform?

Your post states these are not limitations, when they are, the change for troll is caused by a new coding from a new skill not the original one. originally misread i admit that.

[KyunGilll]

u can dodge some spells with burrowstrike in dota 1

[Zieth]

yo I think you can dodge shit with alchemist transform in dota 2.

Linkens blocked fissure if you clicked on the hero in dota 1, if you clicked on the ground it went through. Dota 2's change was good.

As for the rest of the bitching: no comment.

[ekses]

All i know is that not debuffing Double Damage/Alacrity on an avatar'd hero is imbalance. Do you guys think that was intentional or not? You can even put the lightning buff from mjolnir on a BKB'd hero iirc